The
collective amnesia that had gripped Dutch society for nearly two decades after
the Indonesian War of Independence (1945-1949) ended on Friday, January 17th
1969. That evening, viewers of the television progamme Achter het Nieuws
(Behind the News) were treated to an interview with Joop Hueting, a former
conscripted soldier in the Dutch army in Indonesia. The previous month the
national newspaper de Volkskrant had
published a page long interview with Hueting about his experiences of Dutch war
crimes in the former colony. But the article had led to little or no reaction.
The impact of Hueting’s interview in Achter het Nieuws would be on an entirely
different scale. Already, during the
broadcast, telephone calls began to arrive, mostly from irate
viewers expressing their rage at Hueting’s words. In total, the television
channel would receive 841 reactions. In the coming weeks no less than 460
articles appeared in the ten national newspapers commenting on the programme. Seldom had a television progamme been the
catalyst for the release of so much emotion.
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| Joop Hueting Interview, January 17, 1969 |
What shocked
the public was Hueting’s revelation concerning the conduct of Dutch troops. In
a calm, steady voice, he told: “I
participated there in war crimes (…) I
can mention that kampongs were riddled [with bullets] - where no one could see
the military necessity at the time – that interrogations took place where torture
was used in the most horrible way, in which the military necessity was
difficult to find – that acts of vengeance took place, in which the military
necessity was also not to be found. For instance (…): we had prisoners and
these prisoners were often shot dead and the slogan was ‘Go take a piss’, after
which they would turn around and be shot in the back.”
The
interviewer than asked: “Where those incidental examples or do you say: ‘I
experienced that often’?” Hueting answered: “Those were not incidental examples
– that was the normal state of affairs.”
For nearly
20 minutes Hueting continued his list, bearing witness to what he himself had
experienced. He told of being on patrol when, while being under enemy fire,
prisoners would be taken and, that often the easiest solution was simply to
kill them. “That is a clear example of a war crime” he added. But there were soldiers who, even when there
was no contact with the enemy, would spot a farmer and “Bang – he would be shot
dead.” In what would become an oft
quoted passage from the interview, Hueting described how two soldiers entered a
house in a kampong and opened fire and then he himself entered the house and ‘I
saw there, in the twilight, fifteen, twenty people – women, children and men,
squatting down in a heap. And when I got used to [the light] I saw the blood
spurting from arteries, the screaming, the death agony and death cries from the
people in that little house. And the lads outside shouted at us: ‘hey, will you
watch out lads, ‘cause you shot through the wall and almost hit us’.”
A shocking
moment was when Hueting described interrogation practices: “That began with
hitting and kicking (…) After the hitting and kicking sometimes the telephone
was used, when the wires would be attached to the genitals and then a current
would be released (…) and the people would shrivel up from the pain and pass
urine.”
He then told
of one of the most upsetting incidents that he had witnessed: “a rope was taken
and that was tied around the ankles of the man and then the rope was thrown
over the beam that supported the interior gallery of the house. The rope was
pulled on one side and on the other side the man – ankles above, head below.
First the rope was gently released, until he came with his head on the concrete
floor of the gallery, and then harder, until the blood was coming from pretty
much everywhere and a sort of cracking sound came from his head. He died in a
really sick way.”
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| Royal Dutch Indies Army |
Hueting
explained that the silence that had engulfed these events for two decades as
being the result of two processes – because the former soldiers or veterans did
not believe in “hanging out the dirty laundry” and because it was not in the
interests of the politicians from that time to have these issues in the
limelight.
From this
point forward the issue of Dutch war crimes in Indonesia would appear and
reappear consistently during public debates on decolonization. Hueting’s
infamous interview of 1969 will form the beginning of this debate, yet he gave
his own verdict quiet clearly: the responsibility lay not with the soldiers
themselves, but with the political leaders and with the military commanders.
The
immediate effect of the programme was explosive. Historian Van der Born
described the effect: “Suddenly The Netherlands was awake.” The eminent historian Wesseling, described it
as “a bomb-shell”. Lizzy Van Leeuwen referred
to it as “a shocking broadcast”. In the
words of a recent Vrij Nederland
article, “all hell broke lose”. Two
decades of silence had suddenly ended, and, though the issue of the behaviour
of Dutch soldiers in Indonesia has waxed and waned, it has never again quite
disappeared from public debate. In the 21st century it will land the Dutchstate in the courts and the publication of photographs of Indonesians being
executed by Dutch will be front page headlines as late as 2012, more than sixty
years after the end of the conflict and more than forty years after Hueting’s
original interview.
Hueting had
already tried to publish his views about the conflict in the late 1950s. He had
sent his work to the newspapers the NRC
Handelsbad and Het Parool. Both
newspaper did not dare to publish the material at the time. The Netherlands was an open society, a
democracy, with a free press, not a totalitarian dictatorship. And yet, it was
difficult to contest the official collective memory or state of forgetfulness.
But a decade
later, much had changed.
In the
mid-1960s Amsterdam had become the birthplace of a colourful new anarchist
group, the Provos. This anti-authoritarian movement, hugely popular among
youth, took its name from its deliberate social provocations and these
happenings or provocations were widely covered in the nation’s media. At the
same time the Vietnam War had become a symbol of protest in much of Europe,
including the Netherlands. In The Netherlands, as in much of the western world,
1968, the year that Hueting was interviewed by de Volkskrant, was a year of chaos and potential change. Europeans
watched the students of Paris rebel in May 1968, followed by the crushing of
the Prague spring by Russian forces in August. In February 1968 the West German
radical student leader and one of the chief leaders of Europe’s anti-war movement,
Rudi Dutschke (so called “Red Rudi”) made a chaotic and well publicized visit
to Amsterdam. Meanwhile, the Dutch
government’s decision to penalize students for using the slogan “Johnson – War
Criminal”, while dropping charges against an anti-war philosopher from the
University of Groningen, had caused heated and emotional public debate. The increasing polarization of views
regarding the war in Vietnam led Herman Wigbold and Koos Postema to present an
edition of the television programme Achter
het Nieuws dedicated to this theme on April 16, 1968. It is the same
Wigbold and Postema that will present the interview with Hueting seven months
later. It is against this background of social change and conflict - of youth
versus age, revolution against authority, the self-designated forces for peace
against the perceived forces for war, that Hueting gained his opportunity to
air his views.
The new
medium of television had brought about a new form of historical representation.
Here there was no need for the historian.
The historical actor himself was brought directly before the
audience. In this sense television was
the most democratic of all media. Those who heard Hueting’s story that evening
had no need of an interpreter; the journalist, the politician and the historian
might aid the listener’s interpretation, but the television broadcast allowed
everyone to have an opinion. In Hueting’s case the programme’s presenters had
found an educated (he had just completed his doctorate in psychology) and
articulate subject. For the most part Hueting spoke without prompting – he
simply told his story, he shared his autobiographical memory and it quickly
became the first part of building a new collective memory. The medium ensured
that Hueting could democratically articulate and share his memories with
millions at one and the same time, and most of those who heard him and saw him
did so under identical circumstances – from the comfort of their own home. Television, alongside cinema and the internet,
have proven to be powerful agents in the construction and dissemination of
collective memory.
Of course a
characteristic of the new medium was that it could not be repeated. Many potential viewers missed the initial
programme, and there was nothing that could be done about that. Television was
not like a book that could be picked up at ones leisure, that could be read and
reread, underlined and added to with marginalia. Not until the internet age and
the availability of digital streaming could one archive interesting programmes
and watch, and re-watch, at a time of one’s own choosing. Thus, the Hueting
interview became known to a far greater number than those who had actually seen
it. By means of quotations in newspapers his descriptions of cruelties and
excesses became dispersed and widely distributed, entering into the public
discourse, yet though those who had missed the programme could not go back and
see it. The power of the TV event then, was not simply what it provided in
itself, but as a catalyst towards further exchanges in TV, radio and print. As
we have already seen, within hours of the event, the first print commentaries
were being distributed. The debate had started, and it still continues.














